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Can concepts exist if humans or animals don't exist at all? Can't other things that have no mind make abstraction or concepts?

For example, I think abstract things such as redness (quality) and brightness (state) are all concepts. And of course redness or brightness can exist without humans and God and animals. (I mean I think concepts exist independently in other worlds such as idea as Plato says, but not exactly, I think nature, which has no mind, can make abstraction even though it's by coincidence or without intention).

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Concepts can exist independently of humans or animals. They can exist in nature without human or animal perception. Philosophers like Plato and Kant believe in the independent existence of concepts.

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Concepts can exist independently of humans or animals. They are not limited to being products of the human mind. For example, concepts like redness or brightness can exist in nature without the need for human or animal perception. Philosophers like Plato and Kant believe that concepts exist independently in other worlds or as innate and necessary rules of thought. While concepts can be products of human experience, there are also concepts that are not easily reducible to simple meanings or ideas.

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